Re: Debian Libre - blend/pureblend/derivative?
Quoting Simon Josefsson (2025-11-25 10:15:09)
> Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> writes:
>
> >> 1) Debian Libre as a Debian Pure Blend. As far as I can tell, this
> >> isn't that far away, the images serves a purpose for a special group of
> >> target users. Could this be considered a Debian Pure Blend already?
> >> What is missing to become officially blessed?
> >
> > A system design consisting purely Debian bits is a "Debian Pure Blend".
> > No need for any further blessing - go ahead and print stickers for it!
>
> Is there a requirement that the build scripts to produce the images also
> be part of Debian? And a requirement that those scripts doesn't use or
> download anything that is not part of Debian? The current build scripts
> are tiny (<200 lines of shell commands), but it is not part of Debian.
Purely means 100%. not 99.99999.
Funnily, last time I had such conversation about bending the rules was
when the term "Debian Pure Blends" was coined, in a conversation about
whether Skolelinux could call itself "pure" without solving bug#311188.
For the record, I do not consider Skolelinux "offensive", nor have I
propose to label it "policy-violating-Debian". Just insisted to not
call it a pure blend while it s factually ever-so-slightly impure.
> How do other Blends work, do they package their build scripts?
Some blends use blends-dev. A few use boxer. I am not aware if some
blends (pure or not) use other helper tools.
> > Good luck with your project - I think it sounds like a worthy project,
> > regardless if you choose an approach where "Debian Pure Blend" is
> > inappropriate do describe it.
>
> Thank you -- I think maybe the solution isn't to decide on one thing to
> provide, but realize that the effort may offer multiple things:
>
> Debian Libre Pure Blend - current live images, using only Debian bits
> (modulo my question above).
>
> Debian Libre Blend - live images that also configure additional
> archives, to add say linux-libre or some other package that Debian
> rejects.
>
> Debian Libre Derivative - a derivative that copy Debian removing the
> non-free parts. I guess this shouldn't have "Debian" in the name?
Sounds sensible to me.
Last I checked (which is quite some time ago) Skolelinux did similar,
in providing one product officially part of Debian, and another
generated outside of Debian (due to bug#311188, as I understand it, but
possibly for other reasons as well, or I might have misunderstood and
that bug has never been of decisive concern for Skolelinux developers).
- Jonas
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