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Re: Debian Libre - blend/pureblend/derivative?



Hi Simon, and others.

Quoting Simon Josefsson (2025-11-25 00:30:33)
> I build and publish Debian Live ISO images from a GitLab pipeline for a
> couple of flavors arm64/amd64 gnome/standard/slim made without any
> non-free software, and just made 13.2.0 images available from here:
> 
> https://gitlab.com/debdistutils/debian-libre/debian-libre-live
> 
> I want to explore formalizing this contribution somehow.  I was reading
> the Debian Pure Blends manual -- https://blends.debian.org/blends/ --
> and would like to hear what people think about going down this route for
> Debian Libre.  What do you think?
> 
> I'm not familiar with the terminology and processes around Blends, so
> I'm looking for guidance on what make sense, what is easily possible,
> what could be possible with more work, what would be controversial, and
> what would be a bad idea.  I see the manual describe how to become a
> Debian Pure Blends, but I'm not even at the stage where I know if that
> even make sense.
> 
> I can see some paths forward:
> 
> 1) Debian Libre as a Debian Pure Blend.  As far as I can tell, this
> isn't that far away, the images serves a purpose for a special group of
> target users.  Could this be considered a Debian Pure Blend already?
> What is missing to become officially blessed?

A system design consisting purely Debian bits is a "Debian Pure Blend".
No need for any further blessing - go ahead and print stickers for it!

> 2) Adding more libre-oriented packages, such as GNU Linux-Libre:
> https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/
> 
>   2a) Is it "permitted" for a Debian Pure Blends to configure additional
>   non-debian.org archives to fetch packages from?  Is that what makes it
>   a "non-Pure" Blend?
> 
>   2b) Could linux-libre be added to Debian properly?  I suppose some
>   work to reduce duplication of kernel code would be required.  Has
>   including linux-libre been discussed before, and was there any
>   conclusive outcome of that?

A system including non-Debian bits is not a Debian Pure Blend.
Feel free to call is a Debian Blend (without the "pure" designation).

I do understand that your aim is "more pure than Debian", but the
terminology is about Debian-ness, not about other interpretations of
purity.

Good luck with your project - I think it sounds like a worthy project,
regardless if you choose an approach where "Debian Pure Blend" is
inappropriate do describe it.

 - Jonas

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