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Re: Bits from the DPL



On 2025-10-05 12:29 +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
Andreas wrote:
If a copyright holder claims a package infringes their rights

I'd like to believe that a mere "claim" should not be enough for us to
remove something in 48h or whatever short period of time. There must
be something of substance. Otherwise we would be at the mercy of
copyright trolls like SCO.

Exactly - any removals process which is triggered by a mere claim is
favouring the claimant over Debian and our reasonably rigorous
processes. And malicious claimants is certainly a possibility (but not
something we have suffered from so far, SFAIK)

I am not convinced that there is any good reason for implementing
'automatic removal on external claim', although it is possible that
there is legislation that makes this prudent. The DMCA takedown
mechanism works this way (US legislation), but that's been around
since 1998 so it's not obvious why that would make us change our
processes now.

Andreas, you referred to some meeting in some of your replies where
this was discussed and you got advice, but I am lacking context
here. Who met with whom, and who was advising? What was the meeting
about? Was the advice about some specicifc cases/legislation or just
the normal conservatism of lawyers.

We already have a process for removing/updating packages which contain
copyright infringements. I think someone has to show why that process
is no longer adequate before we make changes.

How often do we get such bugs/issues in practice? It seems very likely
that this has happened sometime in the last 30 years, but I suspect
not very often.

Wookey
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