Re: finally end single-person maintainership
On Wed, 22 May 2024 at 12:35, Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 12:59:52AM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > On Thu, 2024-04-11 at 22:52 +0000, Bill Allombert wrote:
> > >
> > > When a change leads to a RC bug a month or three after having be
> > > part of a package, fixing the problem falls on the maintainer and not
> > > on the change author. Even correct changes can trigger latent bugs
> > > in software.
> >
> > Yet another reason why using Salsa and its CI *and having autopkg-
> > tests* is so important - contributors can test their changes before
> > even asking to merge them.
>
> You can run autopkgtests locally, you do not need Salsa for that.
It can, but it's really a massive pain. git push and go make a cup of
tea is so much nicer.
Nowadays I run locally only when debugging complex issues, otherwise
it's all delegated to Salsa.
> > And yes, its up to the 'expert' maintainer
> > of the package to ensure there are proper tests in place. Because even
> > that expert is a human only and we all make mistakes.
>
> Indiscriminate use of Salsa CI is not free, there is a cost in hardware, in electricity
> and in carbon emission, that we cannot completely ignore.
>
> In any case, it is not realistic to expect tests to detect all kind of bugs, alas.
The cost of running those same builds and tests locally is pushed onto
the developer though, and their electricity bill. By using Salsa, the
cost is pushed to the project and our sponsors - which seems the right
thing to me.
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