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Re: Salsa - best thing in Debian in recent years? (Re: finally end single-person maintainership)



On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 08:25:10PM -0700, Otto Kekäläinen wrote:
> Hi Bill and Wookey!
> 
> In a recent long thread on debian-devel you had somewhat negative
> sentiments towards the usefulness of Salsa.

I am not sure this characterize my position. I have no opposition to
Salsa (even though it is missing features Alioth had I relied on),
I am opposed to be forced to use it when it just increases
bureaucracy.

> I do see you doing good
> technical work for Debian and recently a MR from Bill too, so I was
> thinking that maybe you will change your mind when you read more
> in-depth arguments. This is my attempt to have you think about Salsa
> in a new light:
> 
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 at 11:41, Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> wrote:
> > Having a repository on salsa or even "packaging team" does not prevent
> > a lack of maintainer, so this is not relevant.
> > Without a maintainer, no contribution will be merged in any case.
> 
> Consider this Merge Request to fix debbugs builds immediately, and to
> include Salsa-CI to keep the build from regressing again:
> https://salsa.debian.org/debbugs-team/debbugs/-/merge_requests/19

debbugs is a Debian-native package. So of course it needs an upstream git
repository.  All my Debian-native packages are maintained on Salsa (and before
Salsa on Alioth).

The MR I did was for lintian which is also Debian-native.

Also debbugs is a special case:
The debbugs Debian package (as opposed to the debbugs software) have never been
really maintained. I am actually one of the very few users of this package
and I tried several times to get the maintainers to do a new upload but they
were clearly not interested.
Ideally debbugs should be made non-native so that some else could maintain the
Debian package.

Cheers,
-- 
Bill. <ballombe@debian.org>

Imagine a large red swirl here. 


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