On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 11:03:00PM +0200, Kyle Robbertze wrote: > On 2022/07/19 22:12, Alastair McKinstry wrote: > > On 19/07/2022 21:04, Wookey wrote: > > > On 2022-07-19 21:01 +0200, Bartosz Fenski wrote: > > > > > > > > Anyone interested in switching to some more modern channels of > > > > communication? > > > > > > > Matrix please. It's free software all the way through. We can run our > > > own server. Not-mobile-phones are 1st class clients. > > > > > > I'm increasingly using it to replace IRC (with bridges if > > > appropriate). I'd be happy to see debian move channels from IRC to > > > Matrix. I'm not happy about moving them to Telegram or Signal, which > > > are obviously a great improvement on Whatsapp but still only > > > somewhat-free. Telegram has non-free back-end. Signal is presumably OK > > > if you run your own back-end, but you try to use the centralised one > > > then you can't build your own client (or at least it's made extremely > > > difficult). Signal requires an active mobile phone number to use (not > > > sure if telegram is the same). > > > > > > I'm fine with IRC too. It's not broken, but unless you have your own > > > permanent IRC client instance somewhere it's not great. Having the > > > store and-forward done by someone else (unless you want to still do it > > > yourself) is nice. > > > > > > Wookey > > > > I agree. > > > > Importantly, Matrix is (1) federated, (2) can be bridged with other > > networks, eg IRC. > > > > (as well as being open and free). Its hard to see Signal inter-operating > > to others. As tech evolves, we need to stick to principles of being open > > in the sense of federation, not being centralized. > > There is the Debian Social [1] Matrix instance at > https://element.debian.social. You can sign in with Salsa. Many of the > Debian IRC channels are bridged and collected in the > #debian:matrix.debian.social space. > Nice Groeten Geert Stappers [1] https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianSocial -- Silence is hard to parse
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