Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 2:41 PM Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 11:14:43AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > edward@4angle.com wrote:
> >
> > >Package: wnpp
> > >Severity: wishlist
> > >Owner: Edward Betts <edward@4angle.com>
> > >X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-python@lists.debian.org
> > >
> > >* Package name : gender-guesser
> > > Version : 0.4.0
> > > Upstream Author : Israel Saeta Pérez <israel@lead-ratings.com>
> > >* URL : https://github.com/lead-ratings/gender-guesser
> > >* License : GPL-3 & GFDL-1.2+
> > > Programming Lang: Python
> > > Description : Guess the gender from first name
> >
> > Oh, not *another* package that tries to guess things from names.
> >
> > Do you have a real use for this package?
>
> Why in the world is that even a relevant question? There are plenty of
> packages in the archive which are useful to essentially nobody apart
> from the maintainer and there are even packages which are maintained
> without being useful to the maintainer at all (but rather useful to
> others).
>
> > There are a *lot* of issues
> > in this area, and mis-gendering people is not something to risk
> > lightly...
> >
>
> "There are a *lot* of issues in this area" seems rather nebulous. In
> which area? Given the fact that we have clear and rather unambiguous
> guidelines for what constitutes software which is appropriate for
> inclusion in the archive, and given that on its face this software does
> not seem to be in conflict with any of those guidelines, what then is
> the problem? BTW, I'm not interested in any sort of "well I don't like
> ..." or "such and such could offend so and so ..." sort of arguments.
Debian has a Diversity Statement [1] which says that Debian welcomes
people regardless of how they identify themselves. Trans people and
non-binary people face a lot of discrimination, harrassment and
bullying around the world. That bad treatment of these people is
against Debian's core values. Therefore, the Debian Project wouldn't
want to distribute software that appears to facilitate that kind of
harassment, regardless of the software license it is released under.
We might not want to distribute such software even if it also has
non-harmful uses. We don't have to distribute *everything* ourselves.
[1] https://www.debian.org/intro/diversity
Thank you,
Jeremy Bicha
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