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Re: use of Recommends by vlc to force users to use pipewire



On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 11:43:06AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > > >  a) pipewire package enables pipewire service by default
> > > > 
> > > > Indeed, but pipewire service doesn't take control of audio over
> > > > pulseaudio. Only pipewire-pulse does that.
> > > 
> > > This is incorrect. The pipewire-pulse package was not installed
> > > at all (pipewire-pulse had been installed automatically in
> > > October 2021 due to dependencies, but the change was reverted,
> > > and the package got removed on my machine 3 days later).
> 
> Sorry. Actually it got removed because I downgraded the pipewire
> packages back to the previous version (it's clearer with the
> /var/log/apt/term.log* log files).
> 
> > > I don't know whether this could cause the issue, but
> > > pipewire-media-session was installed, because pipewire-bin
> > > recommends it. There were already issues with it in the past:
> > What issues?
> 
> The ones mentioned below ("Closes: ...").
They are about pipewire-media-session vs wireplumber and/or affect people
installing pipewire-pulse as far as I can see.

> > > https://tracker.debian.org/news/1271014/accepted-pipewire-0339-3-source-into-unstable/
> > > which says:
> > > 
> > >    * Remove pipewire-media-session from Recommends.
> > >        (Closes: #995116, #996994, #997859)
> > The context of this was "replace pipewire-media-session with wireplumber"
> 
> Indeed, this is what happened with pipewire 0.3.39-1, as I can see
> in my dpkg logs and the changelog:
> 
>   * Change priority order between pipewire-media-session and wireplumber,
>       WirePlumber is now the recommended session manager.
> 
> and this is what led to the pipewire-pulse installation.
So "pipewire-media-session was installed" is indeed irrelevant.

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