Quoting Sebastian Ramacher (2022-05-30 12:08:44) > On 2022-05-30 10:43:58 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2022-05-28 10:41:34 +0200, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > > > On 2022-05-28 01:27:13 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > On 2022-05-27 12:34:26 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > > [...] > > > > > That's needed for Bluetooth audio, *if* you are using Pipewire for audio, > > > > > which (as a distribution) we are not yet aiming to do. It isn't needed > > > > > (or useful) if you are only using Pipewire as a video multiplexer. > > > > > > > > The issue appeared automatically with the upgrade of the vlc package. [...] > > My comment was on "until such time as we are ready to recommend > > Pipewire as a replacement for PulseAudio". If Debian is not ready > > to use Pipewire as a replacement for PulseAudio, then VLC shouldn't > > try to use Pipewire by default instead of PulseAudio. So that would > > be a bug in VLC. > > Let me clear this up a bit: > > * vlc does not use pipewire by default. [...] > * vlc-plugin-pipewire depends on libpipewire-0.3 and that's it. So essentially...: a) pipewire package enables pipewire service by default b) libpipewire* package recommends pipewire c) vlc recommends libpipewire Effectively, installing vlc enables pipewire service by default, despite vlc not intending that to happen. To allow packages *support* a functionality by default, separately from *enabling* that functionality by default, libraries need to stop recommending their consuming service. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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