Re: Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is *******
Suppression of the discussion just makes it worse. It should be
discussed on every Debian list as the entire community has feelings in
this subject. Debian wouldn't exist without the entire community so why
would they not be part of the discussion.
Cheers.
-- jhd
On Sun, 2021-04-04 at 14:40 -0700, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> Please stop replying. That is a troll, will be banned quickly, dont
> maintain it alive. Just ignore, listmaster and bts will do what is
> needed. Keep power for other more interesting things.
>
> Regards
>
> Le 04/04/2021 à 23:18, crazy.molly@lavache.com a écrit :
> >
> > If you don't want these ego-maniacs to use your name in their
> > vendettas
> > you can resign from Debian. This is the choice. How many people
> > will
> > resign if Debian votes to attack Stallman? Please tell us before
> > the
> > vote finishes so we call can know this now.
> >
> > No matter the outcome of this vote. Having the vote at all
> > suggests
> > that people are expendable. Volunteers can be hung over the side
> > of the
> > ship while people have an email argument about what to do next.
> >
> > Why don't you understand how toxic this is?
> >
> > There are so many years of defamation in Debian now. Delete it
> > all
> > now. Delete the negative options from the vote now. Please stop
> > or we
> > stop you.
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: Stephan Lachnit <stephanlachnit@debian.org>
> > > To: crazy.molly@lavache.com
> > > Subject: Re: Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is
> > > *******
> > > Date: 04/04/2021 22:38:20 Europe/Paris
> > > Cc: 986382@bugs.debian.org;
> > > debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> > >
> > > > Why does the toxic woman want to destroy reputations?
> > >
> > > If you refer to Jonathan Carter, that isn't even the person that
> > > started the vote, nor an original author of the open letter. Do
> > > your
> > > research, tbh to me it seems like you are a complete outsider.
> > >
> > > > Destroy nobody - Or destroy everybody! You can't have it both
> > > > ways.
> > >
> > > First of all, nobody wants to "destroy" RMS. Calling someone to
> > > resign
> > > isn't destroying them, especially if they were just (secretly)
> > > elected.
> > >
> > > Secondly, why are you so toxic and want to "destroy" everybody?
> > > There
> > > is really no point, all you do is make the FLOSS community weaker
> > > and
> > > more divided. And since you seem to care about RMS and his ideas,
> > > I
> > > don't think that is something you would like.
> > >
> > > > If Debian is a vehicle for defamation, every one of you faces
> > > > full
> > > consequences.
> > >
> > > Debian is a democracy. Assume one person votes in favor of RMS
> > > (which
> > > as you can see some people will do), why do you want them to face
> > > your
> > > alleged consequences? That doesn't make sense. They have no power
> > > to
> > > do the things you ask for. In fact, nobody in Debian has. Again,
> > > I
> > > don't think you understand the Debian project at all.
> > >
> > > > Your jobs are the targets. Your families are targets.
> > >
> > > I can understand that you are angry even if I don't agree with
> > > your
> > > views, but I don't think anyone here wants to harm RMS. Everyone
> > > here
> > > just wants the best for the FLOSS community. Why do you want to
> > > harm
> > > them so badly?
> > >
> > > Opinions on how what's the best for the community may differ, but
> > > that's fine. Discussions are healthy, as long as they stay
> > > friendly
> > > (btw your mails aren't). I have learned a lot from discussions,
> > > and
> > > yes sometimes people (me included) get unfriendly or say things
> > > that
> > > turn out to be false. But as long as we apologize for mistakes,
> > > we can
> > > grow from it.
> > >
> > > > No volunteer should have to suffer you toxic people
> > >
> > > Don't you think, just maybe, that we shouldn't suffer from your
> > > toxicity as well? Especially since we will suffer much more than
> > > you
> > > can ever suffer from this. I mean, what's the worst that can
> > > happen
> > > from your point of view? RMS resigns again? Then everything would
> > > be
> > > just like a month ago.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Stephan
>
>
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