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Re: What to do when DD considers policy to be optional? [kubernetes]

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 20:37:16 +0000, Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org>
>If this represents the actual state of building Kubernetes, it's
>unclear to me why Debian would package it at all. I don't see the
>value to users in consuming Kubernetes from a Debian package if the
>result is compromising on Debian's vision and values so that they
>can get the exact same thing they'd have if they just used the
>Kubernetes community's recommended tooling to install it instead.
>I'm all for using the best tool for the job, and while I've been a
>die-hard Debian user for more than two decades I also don't install
>every last bit of software from its packages. Some software
>ecosystems have chosen to focus on tools and workflows which are
>incompatible with Debian's, but that doesn't mean that either one is
>inherently bad nor that they need to be integrated at all costs.

Software packages like kubernetes, docker, and many of the other "hip
tools of the day" are moving way too fast for our release scheme.
Additionally, many communities and developers stop caring for their
software once it has cleared the door and laugh upon people who are
using anything but their latest release.

I think we're not doing the world a favor packaging those software and
releasing it with our stable release, making our users appear on
community support channels with a version that is many months old and
will only trigger a "first, upgrade to our current version, check
whether your issue still exists and then come back" answer from the
upstream community. In the long run, people who don't know how our
releases work will make their judgement about Debian being "always out
of date", worsening our reputation.

We do provide a rock solid base system where people can install their
software, in the case of those fast moving things in the way upstream
wants them to. This causes a much better result for all those

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