Re: Bits from the DPL (August 2019)
On 2019-09-24 07:34, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Dear Mo.
>
> Mo Zhou - 24.09.19, 04:58:06 CEST:
>> For desktop users, non-systemd init plus a mordern desktop environment
>> such as Plasma or Gnome would be impossible on Debian, as they depend
>> on systemd. Some other distro such as Gentoo and FreeBSD have somehow
>> removed the systemd dependency for Gnome but I'm sure how much amount
>> of patchwork is required.
>
> This is clearly not true with current Debian Sid (and a little glue
> package from experimental at the moment). This laptop is testimony to
> that. I am writing this with KMail on a KDE Plasma desktop and no
> systemd / libsystemd packages installed, using sysvinit instead. It is
> running like this for *months* already.
>
> They depend on systemd-logind which can be replaced by elogind –
> actually that is a huge part of the discussion in this thread, did you
> actually *read* it? elogind as I remember is coming from Gentoo / BSD
> efforts. And I am not sure whether KDE Plasma really depends on it or
> whether it could still be used with ConsoleKit 2, which may not really
> be maintained anymore I read somewhere.
>
> However I did not test GNOME myself, but saw reports of Devuan users
> that it works. And if it works in Devuan it likely would work with
> Debian as well, as Devuan developers work on the necessary packages
> within Debian in the debian-init-diversity initiative.
>
> Please do not spread rumors on the state of what is possible in Debian
> if you did not test for yourself. Thank you.
Ok. Previous post was about my observation in Jan/Feb this year,
which only works for Buster but not the current Sid. I didn't
read the threads so sorry for the discrepancy and my obsolete
comment.
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