Re: Confusing our users - who is supporting LTS?
On Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 08:58:47AM +0000, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 09:41:43AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 01:02:57PM -0300, Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo wrote:
> > > I meant that we would say that stable is supported by the security team.
> > > And instead of saying that Jessie was supported by the LTS team, we
> > > would say supported by Freexian.
> > I would object to that, on the grounds that even though Freexian is
> > currently the only company paying people to do LTS support, we should
> > not encourage the idea that they have a monopoly on doing that.
> In my view, that is a situation we could address at the time that we had
> more than one company doing LTS work.
Yes, but then there's the important matter of wording.
A hyptothetical "Extended Debian support by Freexian" is a product of
Freexian that just happens to use Debian infrastructure.
In contrast, a just as hypothetical "Extended Debian support by the ED
team (financially supported by Freexian)" is a product of Debian that
just happens to be supported by Freexian.
I would be fine with something along the lines of the latter, but not
(the exact wording that we end up deciding on may be different, but you
get the point).
> Until that time, I don't think it's a problem.
I think that if we end up writing something which "assigns" LTS to
Freexian, then the possibility that some other company doing LTS work
diminishes. That is not something I want to see happening.
> > If some other company decides that they are not happy with Freexian,
> > then they are currently able to just start their own competing project
> > and do things differently. This is a good thing.
> They would still be able to do so even if we were listing Freexian as
> being the only entity supporting LTS (which is a statement of current
> fact after all): I don't think the hypothetical competing company would
> be too bashful to ask us to update the website. And we could pre-empt
> the situation by making a clear statement as to the project's position
> on listing Freexian (essentially codifying what I'm writing here,
Yes, that'd definitely be necessary.
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