On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 08:08:04 PM Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 15:46:58 -0800, Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> > > wrote: > >The problem with all of these discussions, however, and the reason why I > >largely stopped participating in them (particularly with my Policy Editor > >hat on), is that the rules for what one actually has to do in Debian to > >get a package accepted are a bit confusing and only partly documented, and > >the people who set those requirements basically don't participate in these > >discussions. As long as the decision-makers aren't participating and we > >don't have clear documentation of the rules, even talking about it is > >pointless. > > I must mention that this is most often the case with one quite > powerful group in Debian, and it has been that way for more than a > decade. > > And I get beaten up for mentioning this every time I do. Personally, as a member of the FTP Team (Assistant, not Master), I'm reluctant to participate in discussions like this unless I'm highly confident that I understand the team policy on such matters completely enough to speak totally correctly on the matter because I anticipate that regardless of any disclaimers I might put on any inputs they will be taken as, more or less, stating the team's position on the issue. I'm going to violate this rule slightly and say I don't think the issue is as simple as some people make it out to be. I intend to work within the FTP Team to get some clarification on the team's position on this, but I don't expect it to be quick. I agree we could do with better documentation of what the policy is and why. Marc, I don't want you to take this as me beating up on you, because that's not my intent, but I find your tone frustrating. The FTP Team is not a closed cabal. There are regular calls for volunteers (there is a new set of FTP Trainees learning about the job right now), so anyone who's willing and able to do the work is welcome to help. I find demands on my time from those who aren't frustrating. Scott K Speaking for myself only (really)
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