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Re: e2fsprogs as Essential: yes?

On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 10:49:56AM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 10:45:20PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
> > > lsattr, chattr
> > 
> > These I'd expect to be present in a sane system, including inside
> > containers.
> I argue that a minbase debootstrap is not a sane system.

I'm going to be more explicit here, but basically saying the same as

"sane system" == Priority: important (or higher)

Anything with Priority >= important will be part of any (bare) default
installation, as performed by debian-installer. (Also by a normal
debootstrap, without custom arguments explicitly requesting minbase.)

"Minimal system" (== Priority: required) != "sane system"

Please note how Essential: yes is not part of any of the above

In a system like Debian, we want dependency tracking. A package
with Essential: yes prevents that. (It's explicitly forbidden in policy.)
Thus packages should not use Essential: yes unless they have a very
good reason for it (and sometimes that reason is that because of
historical Essential: yes usage it's VERY hard to get rid of it).

Andreas Henriksson

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