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Re: Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises *unused* commercial service

Quoting Philipp Kern (2017-08-10 06:45:39)
> On 09.08.2017 23:30, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > Stuff like s3cmd are tools connecting to cloud services.  Arguably 
> > usable to have tools to free data from the clouds.
> > 
> > ...but bug#856139 is, I believe, about a tool advertising a cloud 
> > service which is *not* used by the tool.  Instead that cloud service 
> > is advertised as an option *instead* of installing and using the 
> > Free tool.
> > 
> > Anyone having opinions more narrowly on that kind of advertisements?
> And then you go to the bug and you see that it degenerated into a "if 
> it uses a non-free service, it should go into contrib" subdiscussion.

I agree the discussion degenerated, which is the reason I try rehash 
with emphasis in the subject line: I seek opinions on the sanity in 
Debian package descriptions including paragraphs solely about non-free 
*replacement* of the packaged code.

> Since when do we believe that?

Believe what? Please let us not degenerate the discussion again!

> Neither the DFSG nor the Social Contract would imply that you need to 
> have a free server for an API client implementation. Now, I understand 
> that this would be desirable and we should encourage it but we 
> shouldn't just move goal posts willy-nilly.

DFSG and Social Contract do not explicitly forbid us to mention my 
birthday in long descriptions either, even if that would be irrelevant 
for most if not all package descriptions as well.

> The only crucial sentence might be this one from §2.2.2 in the policy:
> "The contrib archive area contains supplemental packages intended to 
> work with the Debian distribution, but which require software outside 
> of the distribution to either build or function."

That section might relate to a degenerated discussion, but does not 
really apply to packages mentioning in their package description 
services *that* *are* *not* *needed* *at* *all* *for* *any* *use* *of* 
*said* *package* - it is only rguably needed for supporting the 
existance of the package through creating a revenue stream for the 
upstream author of it.

 - Jonas

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