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Re: The end of OpenStack packages in Debian?

On 02/16/2017 08:40 AM, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:48:39AM -0500, Allison Randal wrote:
>>> Hopefully, Canonical will continue to maintain the other 15 (more
>>> core...) projects in UCA.
>> Canonical doesn't have a large team for this work, but I imagine we can
>> handle it just fine between their team and a few volunteers.
> May be my question is totally naive but I'm wondering why we can not
> form a common team with the Ubuntu maintainers and get something out in
> common.

I've been trying to do this since 2011, and never fully succeeded. Maybe
someone will have better luck with Canonical that I did.

> Guessing from
> this mail the situation is that Debian and Ubuntu is doing duplicated
> work for OpenStack packages which from an outsiders point of view does
> not make any sense specifically if one side is confessing not beeing
> able to work on this appropriately.

The relationship has been a way more complicated than what you're
writing. I don't really feel like going back on the history of every
single release (no point, really...), though for some, I wrote all the
packaging of the OpenStack dependencies, in some others, we've worked
them together very well, at least on the python module packaging.

Never they wanted to merge server packages. Even at the last Barcelona
summit, I suggested to Canonical guys to maintain Swift with Ondrej,
which is doing an amazing job. It didn't feel like they wanted to go ahead.

Right now, Caonical team refuses to work on the packaging CI which I
pushed in OpenStack infra, for reasons they may want to explain
themselves (I don't feel like repeating wrongly, but basically, I've
been told it was a duplicate of their workflow).


Thomas Goirand (zigo)

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