Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl.net> writes:
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> wrote:
>> Am 16.02.2015 um 02:54 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton:
>>>
>>> http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/
>>
>>
>> It's funny that when Wheezy (not Jessie!) came out, nobody complained
>> that libsystemd-login0 (which is now part of libsystemd0) was as a
>> dependency of dbus, so it is probably already installed on most desktop
>> systems running current Debian stable.
>
> i'll hazard a guess that it's because they had no idea that, in the
> very near future, all the major desktop developers and all the major
> distros would make the unilateral decision to hard-code the
> *exclusive* use of systemd (or parts of it).
Really? Now why would such a disparate group of programmers want to use
a particular piece of software? Maybe because it solves some of their
problems and they don't have to reinvent the wheel?
You don't hear me whining that almost all C++ software these days pulls
in libboost.
>
> my assessment is that it's that total lack of choice that is causing
> people to get so upset.
Funny, I don't see those same people upset that they have only one
choice for authentication (PAM). Or that selinux is installed by default
on almost all distros.
And you have a choice: stick with old software, or (help) code a
replacement yourself. That has always been the Free Software way.
But dictatorially coming in and demanding that volunteers join you in
riding your hobby horse? Please leave.
Mart
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--- AJS, quoting an uncertain source.
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