Hi. Can we talk about this again? Should I Cc -devel, or is the reassignment to 'general' enough? The argument for guile in default 'make' is as before. And also the current situation is misleading to users. The main feature of make 4.0 is guile support. A user who wants this goes to 'apt-get install make', sees 4.x being installed, and happily attempts to use this shiny new guile support, only to discover that their Makefiles do not work as expected. Thanks