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Re: Minified javascripts in packages



Quoting Vincent Bernat (2015-04-14 18:45:37)
> ❦ 14 avril 2015 10:39 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> :
>
>>>>>> I presume that we can agree that, if someone started offering a 
>>>>>> web service compiling C code with output an order of magnitude 
>>>>>> better in every dimension than gcc can achieve, we still wouldn't 
>>>>>> use it for our binaries (at least not unless it were available as 
>>>>>> free software that we could host ourselves). What makes 
>>>>>> JavaScript worthy of special treatment?
>>>>>
>>>>> It is an interpreted language and "compiled" source can sometimes 
>>>>> be considered as a pristine source too (for example, 
>>>>> concatenation).
>>>>
>>>> No, a concatenated bundle – the compiled form – is not the 
>>>> preferred form for making modifications to the work. So it's not 
>>>> the source form.
>>>
>>> Sorry, that's not always true. The concatenated form may not be the 
>>> preferred form for making modifications for the upstream author but 
>>> for a user, this may be perfectly valid. The prefered form of 
>>> modification of the derivative may become the concatenated form. Or 
>>> the selected form. License-wise, those derivatives are still 
>>> perfectly valid since usually, all this is MIT-licensed.
>>
>> Licensing is not the only reason for Debian packaging rules.
>
> I know.

Great...


> When the license says that the derivative should be redistributed with 
> the source in the prefered form of modification, every derivative use 
> the same prefered form of modification. When the license says nothing 
> about that, there the prefered form of modification may change from 
> one derivative to the other. This is the case for CSS and Javascript.

...yet you seem to continue trying to reason only based on licensing.  
Feel free to do that, but such reasoning will not get you to same logic 
as Debian Policy.


> I am only trying to explain the situation, I have the slight 
> impression that I am a target here.

Not sure what you mean here.  I am not trying to fight you, if that is 
what you mean - I am trying to help you better make sense of the other 
well-meaning posts in this thread.


Have a nice day,

 - Jonas

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