Re: conflicts between Debian's and upstream's Debian package
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 05:10:40PM +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Jonathan Dowland writes ("Re: conflicts between Debian's and upstream's Debian package"):
> > The "bad" packages Harald is talking about, I think, are external to
> > Debian — I don't think he's trying to protect a DD here. So this is
> > courtesy rather than hiding problems.
Since Harald wrote he is using the external package I see no evidence
for your assumption. Harald is effectively preventing us from enhancing
a Debian package - or at least checking whether there is room for
enhancement after a technical evaluation.
> I think in most cases it would be perfectly possible to name the
> upstream in question without "shaming" them.
I do not remember that disputing potential enhancement of a Debian
package has put any shame on anybody. (But may be my memory is weak.)
> Just because an upstream (or indeed anyone else) has done something
> technical differently to the way we would have done it doesn't mean
> that they are wrong. And even if they are wrong, we recognise that
> (a) everyone makes mistakes (b) everyone has limited effort for doing
> thins well.
+1
> The questions raised in this thread are mixed social and technical
> ones.
I even fail to see any mix here. There are people who try to turn this
into a social problem (which makes me really nervous admittedly).
> If the OP would tell us what, specifically, we are talking about, it
> might be possible to come up with useful answers and suggestions.
I consider debian-devel as a honest forum where problems are properly
discussed. Vague guessing should be done rather somewhere else.
Kind regards
Andreas.
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