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Re: Summary:Re: Bug#762194: Proposal for upgrades to jessie



* Darren Salt <listspam@moreofthesa.me.uk> [141130 14:17]:
> I demand that Stephan Seitz may or may not have written...
> 
> > On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 02:41:23PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> >> On Nov 28, Svante Signell <svante.signell@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> a) Upgrades should _not_ change init: whatever is installed should be
> >>> kept.
> >> I disagree: upgrades should get the default init system unless the
> >> system administrator chooses otherwise.
> 
> > Of course not. syslog-ng was not replaced by rsyslog when Debian changed
> > the default syslog. The grub1 bootloader was not replaced when Debian
> > changed to grub2. If Debian changed from exim to postfix the existing MTA
> > would not be changed.
> 
> > So keep your hands of the init system on upgrades.
> 
> Seconded.
> 
> FWIW, I'm using lilo. That's still available, maintained and working, and I
> see no reason to change: grub offers more complexity and more options, but
> lilo does exactly what I want/need of it.

Actually, no, it's not.

lilo appears to pass root=<device ID> (not name!, e.g. 803) under some
conditions, and apparently the i-t maintainers did not ever see this
because it's an uncommon configuration nowadays (and there's now an
open bug and good luck on getting that fixed in a reasonable way).

Uncommon configurations need people actually using them to find AND
fix bugs that are caused by such deviations from the common configs.

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