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Re: Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian



Hi Reinhard,

On 28.07.2014 02:05, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Andreas Cadhalpun
<andreas.cadhalpun@googlemail.com> wrote:

  * Does it make sense for me to switch my package?
    The rule of thumb is, if your upstream uses FFmpeg for development
    you probably want to switch to using it, too.

In [1], Moritz from the security team clearly stated that he is more
than uncomfortable with having more than one copy of libavcodec in
debian/testing.

I discussed this with Moritz in the ITP bug. Moritz ended this discussion [a], and as I wasn't convinced by his arguments, I continued my work. If in the end really only one copy is allowed in the next stable release, I think it should be FFmpeg.

In consequence this means that any package that builds
against the ffmpeg packages currently in NEW won't make it into
testing either. I am therefore surprised about the given answer to the
question above.

It remains to be seen, what the release team prefers: frustrated users and developers or both forks in jessie.

I think it would be best if ftp-master left the ffmpeg package in NEW
until an answer to this problem has been found.

I fail to see how this would help anyone, it only makes testing the package more difficult. Whether or not the package is acceptable for the next stable release is not to be decided by the ftp-masters, but rather by the release team.

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/02/msg00668.html

The FFmpeg version currently in NEW has been there for more than
2 months and is thus outdated. If you want to test the current
packages, you can build them from the repository on Alioth [17]
(e.g. using git-buildpackage).

Furthermore, we'd like to move the FFmpeg packaging under the umbrella
of the pkg-multimedia team, because this would facilitate future FFmpeg
transitions.

I am curious why this is your first email about this matter to
pkg-multimedia, and why do you write this email only now?

In the last discussion on debian-devel it was suggested to get the FFmpeg packages into experimental first [b], before further discussion, so I tried to achieve that.

As the package has been in NEW for a rather long time and the freeze is getting closer, sending this mail now seemed appropriate.

Moreover, I am curious why I haven't seen you working on libavcodec
bugs in Debian before,

It would be great if I could fix every bug in Debian, but unfortunately my time is limited. Therefore, when I encounter a problem that cannot immediately be fixed, I try to work around it. The workaround for practically all problems I had with the Libav packages in Debian could be solved by installing FFmpeg binaries from third parties. Therefore I finally decided to work on a more sustainable solution, i.e. a FFmpeg package in Debian.

and why do you believe you can do a better job
with the ffmpeg package currently on NEW?

It is a lot more likely that I work on fixing a bug that affects me, if there is no easy workaround.

Best regards,
Andreas


a: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=729203#568
b: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/02/msg00714.html


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