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Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing

Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Sure I can go through setting up chroot for that, yet I really think if my
> work requires changes in other packages and the recent systemd changes do
> require this kind of work, I *help* with these changes, instead of uploading
> my changes to unstable *before* the other packages have been fixed.

One point of clarification: systemd does not require changes in
systemd-shim or cgmanager.  systemd runs just fine with no such changes.
Those packages exist for people who for whatever reason don't want to
run systemd, and that's not something the systemd folks should be
expected to help with (any more than people who don't want to run
systemd would be expected to work on systemd).

The systemd maintainers already held systemd 204 back in unstable for
months waiting for the alternative to become viable.

It's not reasonable to expect every systemd upgrade in unstable/testing
to wait for an alternative init system to keep up.  If it does keep up,
great; there's no fundamental reason to *not* want that alternative to
work.  If it doesn't, oh well.

- Josh Triplett

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