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Re: linux-image-3.14-2-armmp description out of date



On Wednesday 23 July 2014 13:05:11 Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-07-23 at 09:31 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 20:50 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 20:18 +0100, David Goodenough wrote:
> > > > In the above package the description reads:-
> > > > 
> > > > The Linux kernel 3.14 and modules for use on ARMv7 multiplatform
> > > > kernel for
> > > > Marvell Armada 370/xp, Freescale iMX5x/iMX6.
> > > > 
> > > > Reading the list of DTB files it includes, this list is rather out of
> > > > date.
> > > 
> > > It's not really grammatical either!
> > > 
> > > > Now (hopefully) this list will grow with most new kernel versions, so
> > > > continuously updating the description in the list might be a bit of a
> > > > load on whoever did it, so perhaps it should mention the main
> > > > families, but it should also point people at the file list for the
> > > > DTBs for the complete detailed list.
> > > 
> > > I don't think we know exactly which machines it currently works on.
> > > Just because a DTB is included, doesn't mean all the drivers are
> > > included and working.  But the intent is that all ARMv7 machines we can
> > > support, will be supported by this package, and the description should
> > > be updated to reflect that.
> > 
> > I've been thinking that for a while too but always stumbled over what it
> > should actually say and so never did/said anything.
> > 
> > How about:
> >         The Linux kernel 3.14 and modules for use on ARMv7 platforms
> >         which are supported by the multiplatform kernel. This includes
> >         but is not limited to:
> >         .
> >         
> >            - thing
> >            - other thing
> >            - one more thing
> >         
> >         .
> >         For the full list of supported platforms see...
> > 
> > This has issues though:
> >       * "supported by the multiplatform kernel" is meaningless to the
> >       
> >         average user (and even to in-the-know-but-non-ARM folks I
> >         suspect). Perhaps just drop the entire "which are supported..."
> >         bit?
> 
> It's also circular - the multiplatform kernel can be used on everything
> supported by the multiplatform kernel, huh, really...
> 
> >       * As David observed upthread the list is bound to get out of date.
> >       * The link between "Supported" and "has a DTB file in the package"
> >       
> >         is a bit weak.
> >       
> >       * Where should "see..." go to?
> 
> Wiki page?
It would have to be a long page or a set of pages, one per kernel version, 
as the list keeps changing and users might want to be able to use an old
kernel and know what was supported.

David
> 
> > In theory a list could be autogenerated from the DTBs (they have a model
> > string in them).
> 
> But that results in a long list of models that may not really work.
> 
> > Or I suppose we could endeavour to keep it in sync with
> > which CONFIG_ARCH_* and CONFIG_MACH_* .config options are enabled.
> > 
> > We shouldn't forget the armmp-lpae flavour too...
> 
> Ben.


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