Re: New project goal: Get rid of Berkeley DB (post jessie)
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014, at 16:10, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Ondřej Surý <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:
> > <with my Berkeley DB maintainer hat + downstream packages>
> > my view is that Berkeley DB is dead since Oracle relicenced it to AGPL3;
> > I also think there are better alternatives for key-value storage
> > databases like LMDB (http://symas.com/mdb/) (or possibly others like
> > LevelDB, Tokyo/Kyoto, etc. we don't have to settle on one common
> > solution).
> > So I think that we can probably get rid of the Berkeley DB at the places
> > where it's used like a simple key-value database.
> > It would require some amount of cooperation with upstream and some work
> > within the packaging (converting the database at the upgrade time).
> We would need to continue to support it in Debian for reading existing
> Berkeley DB key/value pair databases via such things as Perl's DB_File.
> I know I'm not the only one who has tons of key/value pair Berkeley DB
> files scattered around from inumerable pieces of local code or packages
> like krb5-strength.
Yes, and I will support db5.3 as far as I can. On the other hand it
hurt to not grow the number of new Berkeley DB files in the world if
there's better and free/libre replacement, right?
> That said, I don't think the Berkeley DB key/value pair on-disk data
> structure could be all that complex, the algorithms around such a thing
> are very well-understood, and I don't think the implementation has
> in years and is therefore unambiguously under a good license. Maybe
> someone could fork just this portion of Berkeley DB without all the
> complex transaction stuff and take over upstream maintenance of just
Or we can just keep db5.3 forever and wait what will BSD folks do.
Maybe we will end up with LibreDB (*cough*)...
Ondřej Surý <email@example.com>
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