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Re: Bits from the Security Team



On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Christoph Biedl wrote:
> Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote...
>> LTS
>> - ---
>>
>> * At the moment it seems likely that an extended security support
>>   timespan for squeeze is possible. The plan is to go ahead, sort out
>>   the details as as it happens, and see how this works out and whether
>>   it is going to be continued with wheezy.
>
> At least worth a try. I was wondering whether popcon gather data to
> learn how many people will actually use LTS (I think it does).

Here is the information about popcon version numbers that we have
(from the font page of popcon.d.o) for oldstable (squeeze) and
earlier. So at least 38918 machines could benefit from a squeeze LTS
effort.

1.28 (sarge)              : 67
1.31                      : 5
1.32                      : 6
1.33                      : 17
1.34                      : 5
1.36                      : 3
1.38                      : 5
1.39                      : 20
1.40                      : 13
1.41 (etch)               : 2511
1.42                      : 73
1.43                      : 3
1.44                      : 6
1.45                      : 79
1.46 (lenny)              : 8746
1.47                      : 24
1.48                      : 547
1.49 (squeeze)            : 38918

> Are maintainers expected to support "leap-frog" upgrades, i.e. from
> squeeze-lts to jessie? If no, users will try this anyway at EOL of
> squeeze-lts (in two years or so), brace for nasty bug reports. If
> yes, some maintainers already might had have dropped the squeeze-to-
> wheezy upgrade scripts in their packages, thus possibly causing
> breakage. At least I did. No evil intentions, that was before the LTS
> discussion came up.

Debian doesn't support skipping releases right now and I expect if we
support releases for a longer amount of time that won't change.

We don't yet do any testing for upgrades from oldstable2testing etc so
there will probably be some broken things, perhaps we should?

https://piuparts.debian.org/

-- 
bye,
pabs

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