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Re: Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.



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On 02/11/2014 04:21 AM, Olav Vitters wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:51:13PM +0400, Vitaliy Filippov wrote:

>> This can also reduce the risk of "vendor-lock", because the speed
>> Lennart adds features to systemd is so fast that I won't be really
>> surprised if he adds HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and HKEY_CURRENT_USER next.
>> And everyone will be forced to use that new feature [registry] if
>> Debian project won't have any influence on systemd. That's what I
>> call vendor-lock :)
> 
> Features are discussed beforehand at loads of conferences. I think
> resorting to "Windows registry" to make a point says enough. The
> project is under active development, that's is a good thing. If you
> have needs, make them known. Be positive, not distrustful and you'll
> go a long way.

I think this touches on - or possibly misses - a key point.

I do not trust the systemd project to not do things I consider bad or
even insane, because they've already done such things, and they show no
regret or repentance over having done so.

I've seen the same thing with the Mozilla project.

I've seen the same thing with Microsoft.

I believe all of those groups are acting in good faith, working towards
what they see as good goals, with good intentions, and I trust them to
continue to do that; based on the evidence of history, I no longer trust
that the result of that work will be - or, if it once is, will continue
to be - something *I* would consider good.

As such, advice to "not be distrustful" seems to me to be lacking an
essential foundation.

- --
   The Wanderer

Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny.

A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them.
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