[Date Prev][Date Next] [Thread Prev][Thread Next] [Date Index] [Thread Index]

Re: default MTA



On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:53:59 -0400, Chris Knadle
<Chris.Knadle@coredump.us> wrote:
>On Sunday, June 02, 2013 17:10:02, Marc Haber wrote:
>> Exim's default in the packages is not to send authentication data over
>> a non-encrypted connection. The debconf code could try to check
>> whether the smarthost allowes TLS, and if not, query the user whether
>> it is ok to send the password over a non-encrypted connection.
>
>Yeah I see why this test could be useful; gnutls-bin is listed as a Suggests 
>by exim4-base, so the TLS libraries may not be locally available.

The TLS libraries are not in gnutls-bin. gnutls-bin contains debugging
tools. Exim can, of course, use encryption by default.

>The normal way I know to check for TLS availability is to telnet to the SMTP 
>port, give an "EHLO <FQDN>" (and it must be an EHLO) or "EHLO [<IP_address>]", 
>and then look for a "STARTTLS" advertisement in the response from the server.  
>Unfortunately this isn't always possible; some systems filter telnet from 
>reaching the MTA.

Selinux? or how do they do that?

>Attempting to use an FQDN is also troublesome, because Exim tries to use DNS 
>to look up the FQDN, and falls back to using 'uname -n' which returns the 
>local hostname without a domain name.  The SMTP RFCs require the HELO/HELO 
>information to contain an FQDN or an IP address in [] brackets, and some mail 
>systems reject connections containing non-conforming HELO/EHLO greetings.

Smarthosts are usually a lot more forgiving in that regard.

>> >   In this example, the FQDN of the local machine is orac.example.com
>> >   and the smarthost machine is smtp.example.com
>> >   
>> >   Create new file /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.localmacros containing:
>> >       MAIN_TLS_ENABLE = true
>> >       primary_hostname = orac.example.com
>> 
>> I don't think you need MAIN_TLS_ENABLE to to TLS as a client.
>
>Tested this... looks like this is true.  :-)  Cool.  [I'm pretty sure this 
>wasn't always the case, but I'm glad it is now.]

Afair, it was always the case.

>> You can set sc_smarthost to hostname::587 without having to change the
>> transport, see update-exim4.conf(8) or the debconf template for
>> dc_smarthost.
>
>Sweet.  Thanks!  This really helps because it means I can avoid having to 
>modify exim4.conf.template altogether, which will simplify upgrades

Indeed. The configuration was carefully crafted to allow this.

>> >   On the mail server machine (i.e. smtp.example.com), make an MD5
>> >   
>> >   passowrd hash of the password used on the client machine via command:
>> >       #mkpasswd -H md5 SillyPassword
>> >       $1$fUJ2RJ3J$1JvM9dutQs3dbM8DXts1H1
>> >   
>> >   Then modify /etc/exim4/passwd on the server to add a
>> >   
>> >   username:hashed_passwd:passwd triplet for the client:
>> >       Orac:$1$fUJ2RJ3J$1JvM9dutQs3dbM8DXts1H1:SillyPassword
>> 
>> You also can a more modern hash if the server is Debian exim as well.
>
>The exim4_files(5) man page recommends MD5, which is why I was using it, and 
>thee README.Debian.gz document simply refers to this man page.  However 
>crypt(3) indicates that sha-256 is supported too, so I tried it with Exim's 
>passwd file... sure enough, that works.  ;-)

I have committed a fix for the manpage that hasn't been touched in
years. I hope that I pushed to the correct repository.

Greetings
Marc
-- 
-------------------------------------- !! No courtesy copies, please !! -----
Marc Haber         |   " Questions are the         | Mailadresse im Header
Mannheim, Germany  |     Beginning of Wisdom "     | http://www.zugschlus.de/
Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 621 72739834


Reply to: