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Re: GnuTLS in Debian



On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 08:04:32PM +0000, Clint Adams wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:54:49AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > There is no way to change the OpenSSL license.  The project doesn't use
> > copyright assignment and the number of contributors is far too large to be
> > able to track them all down and get their permission.

> I do not believe that either of these statements is categorically true.

> If I recall correctly, similar things were said about freeing Moria and
> Angband, then it turned out that it would have been trivial to contact
> Robert Koeneke if anyone had actually bothered to try.

> The OpenSSL license terms are terrible.  That, the awful build system,
> the awful API, and some of the crypto are reasons that we should not use
> OpenSSL at all for anything.  But instead we run around harming free
> software by making GPL exceptions and pretending that OpenSSL is good
> and tolerable.

Which crypto library has a non-awful API?

> As an intellectual property abolitionist, I'll refrain from weighing in
> on the ethical issues of adhering to stupid license terms.

I think you've managed to invert my point here, actually, which was that
when someone licenses their work under *the GPL*, we should respect their
wishes - even though it would make our lives a lot easier to be able to ship
binaries linked against OpenSSL.

-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
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slangasek@ubuntu.com                                     vorlon@debian.org

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