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Re: systemd effectively mandatory now due to GNOME

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:15:10PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:29:10PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:13:34PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > And this is not just an issue because of people not wanting to use systemd
> > > init, but also because systemd init *can't* run in a container.
> > Whoah, that's not true:
> > sudo systemd-nspawn -bD ~/images/fedora-19
> > works just fine :)
> My understanding, which may be based on dated information, is that
> systemd-nspawn doesn't fully contain the system in the way most others (e.g.
> users of lxc) talk about when they speak of containers: MAC, cgroups support
> inside the container, and possibly other things.

Indeed; Lennert has described it as an enhanced chroot rather than a
container.  The new process is in the same user namespace and inherits
most capabilities.  It can optionally run in a new network namespace.


> If you use lxc-start instead of systemd-nspawn, does your Fedora image work?
> Last I knew, the answer was "no".

Ben Hutchings
If God had intended Man to program,
we'd have been born with serial I/O ports.

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