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Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian

Excerpts from Vincent Bernat's message of 2013-08-19 12:34:17 -0700:
>  ❦ 19 août 2013 21:04 CEST, jidanni@jidanni.org :
> > http://dreamhost.com/dreamscape/2013/06/03/change-is-in-the-air-dreamhost-upgrades/
> Many people seem to justify a switch to Ubuntu LTS with the argument of
> 5-year security support. This support only applies for packages in
> main. A common example is nginx which is in universe. Packages in
> universe are just unsupported. They may or may not get any security
> support. If you need to advocate for Debian vs Ubuntu, I think this is a
> strong argument.

Most places as large and tech-savvy as Dreamhost are happy to maintain
something at the core of their business like a webserver (i.e. nginx). It
is glibc, gcc, sshd, the kernel, bash, etc., that they don't want to
have to think about.

The 2 year cadence has left users with very little time to actually
capitalize on their investment when upgrading. If one has 10 apps to
test and roll out on the new stable, and each app takes 1 month to get
there, and one starts immediately on release day, one now has 14 months
to recoup that time investment before one must start again. The only
real answer that makes sense is to continuously deploy on unstable,
but then you will suffer when a massive breaking transition begins.

Those 5 year cycles just give users more cushion.

Also, if you're going to argue Debian vs. Ubuntu, you are going to argue
that volunteer maintainers on _all_ packages are more desirable than
paid maintainers on the core OS that you don't want to care about. I am
not sure that is an argument that I could win, but maybe you are more
persuasive than I am.

Debian has its place in businesses, however I think we will find more
businesses willing to accept Ubuntu's drawbacks than Debian's.

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