Re: Innovation in Debian
2013/7/22 Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org>:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
>> I want the process to be something like:
>>
>> - New PPAMAIN
>> - Upload new package
>> - "NMU" packages to work with the new stuff (this needs to be
>> something that the project is OK with) inside the PPA
>> - Fiddle
>> - Push it back up
>
> I expect that "NMU" limited to a PPA (even PPAMAIN) will be mostly
> non-controversial as long as they don't end up auto-migrated
> to unstable without approval from the real maintainers.
>
> So, to me, this service is certainly crucial to make it easier to
> innovate and increase our pace of development.
>
>> Screwing with setting up servers is absurd. I just want to hack. I don't
>> want to maintain the archive. I don't want to maintain the servers. I
>> don't want to support build boxen.
>>
>> We need to find a way to get the "boring" stuff out of the way for
>> people excited about change, and not try to box them into non-breaking
>> changes only while they work out the kinks.
>
> +1
>
> We can also do much better in making it easy to auto-setup all this
> infrastructure for derivatives. Having gone through the process for Kali,
> it's disheartening to end up picking reprepro and rebuildd because dak and
> wanna-build/buildd are too complicated to setup.
Indeed! For Tanglu, we use dak (with lost of help from ftpmasters
while setting it up) and a Jenkins installation for package-building
instead of wanna-build.
Later, I think that paultag's set of tools will help a lot in setting
up extra repositories and build services :-)
Cheers,
Matthias
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