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Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant Was: mount point gets "(deleted)" / unable to unmount



hi,

2013/6/6 Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org>:
> On 06/06/2013 03:15 AM, Bjoern Meier wrote:
>> It is that hard, to build a dialog and ask for a desktop?
>
> I don't think it would be that hard, though nobody did it. You know that
> Debian is driven by volunteers only, right? So if you really want
> something to happen, the best way is to do it. We are a the beginning of
> the development cycle for Jessie. Now is the perfect time to implement
> such a feature.
>
> Though, by doing it, make sure you take the proper dialogs warning that
> things will need to be downloaded form network if the default desktop
> isn't selected.
>
> Feel free to contribute it. I would welcome it. I too, feel like its a
> shame that there's no dialog to choose which desktop you want (even if
> we have specialized CDs, I prefer the netinst ones, and there, such a
> dialog would be a very good thing).

That is a brainstorming I like to have.
Maybe, it would be enough if only netinst have this dialog, otherwise
one could fork Debian (again. heh.  ;) ) and provide various DVDs with
desktops. Wait, there is Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Whateverbuntu.
seems like a dialog for netinst is it? I thought already to get
involved in the installer. I'll think about to work out how could this
be done. Sounds not like a hard work.

Anyway, Debian was my favourite on server, without any desktops. So my
point with the upgrade-bugs is still open (oh and don't ask about a
bug link, because I provided this info already).
I'm at a point where I have to ask myself if I want debian on server
again. If you would ask my users, they would say "we had our problems
with file-server". Over the time I learned to work out patches with
upstream and link them on the samba-list AND to save patches in
documentation because there is a high chance, that a fixed bug comes
up in debian again.

Over the years I had a lot of fights with co-workers, supervisors and
- of course - users, why I hang myself on linux. Linux is still there,
so I think I got some points there, but in my opinion life's: getting
harder. That is not a debian only problem, the problem - IMHO - is
linux (as the kernel itself and tool-distributions) is getting fat and
kills his own advantages.

Maybe my rant was at the wrong address. I don't know, debian is my
crush. So, I would hate it to see her getting fat. She would be still
lovely, but couldn't keep the pace and I don't want to see her having
a heart desease. ;)

Greeting,
Björn


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