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Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

Le samedi 11 mai 2013 à 18:26 +0000, Thorsten Glaser a écrit : 
> > See also: Linux is not about choice.
> Debian is not just about Linux.

Yes it is. We have had two releases with kfreebsd, which failed to
provide anything usable. Debian is only about Linux, and has always

> In Debian, Developers are also users, and it can only be the
> UNIVERSAL operating system when there is choice.

Let me say that from someone who cannot be suspected of collusion with
Canonical: Debian is not about choice.

Being able to choose between two entirely different desktop
environments, with different user experiences, is a good thing.
Being able to choose between two /bin/sh shells or two /sbin/init
implementations is not.

> Why dash? It’s clearly inferiour, buggy and not taken care of well.
> Oh, I forgot, you work for Canonical, who apparently invested into it.

WTF? Seriously you need to bring your crusade elsewhere.

> Users in Debian are NOT just desktop end users. They are also developers,
> both Debian and upstream. They are also systems engineers. And lots more.
> Including once-deployed embedded devices in remote locations requiring
> “node” to refer to the hamradio tool (remember this discussion?).

I want a unique /bin/sh and systemd as sole init system. Not just for my
desktops, I want them for my servers too. Especially for my servers. I
don’t do embedded devices, but I’m pretty sure I’d prefer simplicity and
ease of administration for them too.

 .''`.      Josselin Mouette
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