Re: NEW processing during freezes (Was: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R)
On 04/01/2013 11:06 PM, Luca Falavigna wrote:
> On the other hand, FTP Team is willing to fast-track NEW packages
> anytime, if needed.
That's simply not truth. I can't let you say that and not reply.
And I'm happy we come to this topic.
I've sent a mail to the FTP masters last January (IIRC) about it,
because I'm working on Openstack, which has release cycles of 6
months. I've been working on these packages days and nights,
hoping that I would make it for the next release of Openstack.
As it stand, I still have some python packages in the NEW queue,
from the *last* version of Openstack, released nearly 6 months ago.
I did the upload nearly 3 months ago for Cinder. I'm still waiting.
And I'm not even talking about the python dependencies that
I need for the next release of Openstack, due in 3 days. Absolutely
all of them were uploaded for Experimental. There is absolutely
no transition problem with my packages.
The result is a real disaster for my development. There was talks
about doing the packaging of Openstack together, with Ubuntu
and Debian. But as it stands, I don't think I'm in a good position
to ask for that, since it can take a random time for my packages
to get reviewed and finally accepted. Now, if anyone tells me
that Debian isn't adapted for such a fast development as
Openstack, I will be forced to agree. My only option (which I am
already doing) is using a private non-official repository, which
is really not a satisfying solution.
I even proposed my help for the review process (of other packages,
not mine, of course...). This was a no-go refusal. I haven't seen
either that the FTP team asked for help and new members, if
I am seen as not qualified and the team is understaffed!
I by the way agree with Joachim that the unpredictability of the
processing time is the most irritating part of it all.
I really don't understand why all development has to be
completely stalled during the freeze. The only answer I had
from the FTP-masters was "we are frozen, have you noticed?"...
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
BTW: http://ftp-master.debian.org/stat.html shows that
everything started to get stuck around mid-december.