Re: Bulding 3.0.1 Under Ubuntu 10.04 i386
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- Subject: Re: Bulding 3.0.1 Under Ubuntu 10.04 i386
- From: Dmitrijs Ledkovs <xnox@debian.org>
- Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 22:00:25 +0000
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On 28 February 2013 20:03, Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn
<cristian.ionescu-idbohrn@axis.com> wrote:
> Please Cc:, not subscribed to the debian-devel@lists.debian.org list.
>
> Hi there! Linus Torvalds is highly involved in this project :)
>
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2013, Dirk Hohndel wrote:
>>
>> The problem is that our target audience are divers, not hackers.
>
> Agreed.
>
>> Someone who can build from those sources can just build from git
>
> Check.
>
>> But many people (even people running Linux) aren't comfortable building
>> their own binaries.
>
> I wouldn't be that sure, but ok, check.
>
>> And for those I try to make their lives easier.
>
> Of course. Where do you get all that energy from? I'm impressed.
> Really.
>
>> To me that means I need the Ubuntu packages - and those apparently can
>> neatly be built with Launchpad (a couple of us are working on that right
>> now).
>
> That's good. You say ubuntu, but how many ubuntu derivatives are there?
> And who's ubuntu getting maintained packages from?
>
> Don't get me wrong. It's better with one alternative than no alternative
> at all.
>
>> Debian? No non-hacker is running Debian, I guess :-)
>
> Not so. Both my wife and one of my dauthers (non-hackers, as you might
> expect) are using debian ;) And they're happy with that too, AFAICT.
> They got a choice and an offer they couldn't refuse, I guess. No support
> at all, or all support they need. Hard to refuse ;) "Real men don't
> click" (tm), I know, but they're not men, and definitely not hackers.
>
> Managed to get one debian maintainer involved, at some point, Cc:ed, but I
> guess he can't live up to that honor we need so badly right now :( Yes,
> I'm trying to provoke him.
>
>> So in reality it really is Ubuntu that I try to cover here.
>
> That's great. Sorry, I don't know if I can help much there but, by all
> means, try me.
>
> In the meantime, I'll try to figure out some other way to get a debian
> maintainer attracted. Attempting that right now. That'll make all debian
> derivatives happier too. And that's the beauty of that.
>
> Are there more debian users and divers watching this list?
> Could we join forces? Ideas? There might be things that could be
> adjusted in the upstream source that may make distributions binaries
> packiging more attractive and easier to maintain. I'm sure upstream will
> try to accomodate. I think it's a shame for such a great distribution
> (been using it for more than 15 years now) to miss such an opportunity.
>
I have only one dive of a whole 8m deep, but I am ubuntu & debian
developer and can upload this package to debian/ubuntu and a ppa.
Is there any packaging done so far? Point me to it, if not just file
Debian RFP and CC me on it.
Regards,
Dmitrijs.
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