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Re: Bulding 3.0.1 Under Ubuntu 10.04 i386

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Hi there!  Linus Torvalds is highly involved in this project :)

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013, Dirk Hohndel wrote:
> The problem is that our target audience are divers, not hackers.


> Someone who can build from those sources can just build from git


> But many people (even people running Linux) aren't comfortable building
> their own binaries.

I wouldn't be that sure, but ok, check.

> And for those I try to make their lives easier.

Of course.  Where do you get all that energy from?  I'm impressed.

> To me that means I need the Ubuntu packages - and those apparently can
> neatly be built with Launchpad (a couple of us are working on that right
> now).

That's good.  You say ubuntu, but how many ubuntu derivatives are there?
And who's ubuntu getting maintained packages from?

Don't get me wrong.  It's better with one alternative than no alternative
at all.

> Debian? No non-hacker is running Debian, I guess :-)

Not so.  Both my wife and one of my dauthers (non-hackers, as you might
expect) are using debian ;)  And they're happy with that too, AFAICT.
They got a choice and an offer they couldn't refuse, I guess.  No support
at all, or all support they need.  Hard to refuse ;)  "Real men don't
click" (tm), I know, but they're not men, and definitely not hackers.

Managed to get one debian maintainer involved, at some point, Cc:ed, but I
guess he can't live up to that honor we need so badly right now :(  Yes,
I'm trying to provoke him.

> So in reality it really is Ubuntu that I try to cover here.

That's great.  Sorry, I don't know if I can help much there but, by all
means, try me.

In the meantime, I'll try to figure out some other way to get a debian
maintainer attracted.  Attempting that right now.  That'll make all debian
derivatives happier too.  And that's the beauty of that.

Are there more debian users and divers watching this list?
Could we join forces?  Ideas?  There might be things that could be
adjusted in the upstream source that may make distributions binaries
packiging more attractive and easier to maintain.  I'm sure upstream will
try to accomodate.  I think it's a shame for such a great distribution
(been using it for more than 15 years now) to miss such an opportunity.



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