On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 13:31:37, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 26 Feb 2013, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le lundi 25 février 2013 à 11:43 -0800, Don Armstrong a écrit : > > > 4. We overrule the decision of the meta-gnome maintainers to add a > > > > > > dependency from gnome to network-manager-gnome; this dependency > > > should be removed. If in the opinion of the NM maintainer (and > > > before the release of wheezy the Chair of the Technical Committee > > > or an individual delegated by the Chair in consultation with the > > > Release Team) the concerns raised in §4 of the CTTE decision > > > #681834 have been addressed through technical means (e.g. by > > > preventing the starting of NM as discussed in #688772), the > > > meta-gnome maintainers may freely adjust the dependencies as > > > usual. > > > > Can we consider that the changes in NetworkManager 0.9.4.0-9 are OK on > > this matter? > > I think those changes did most/all of the work to resolve the really > important issues from my perspective. However, Bdale and the RMs > are the people who have to decide on this, so my opinion doesn't > really count for anything. > > If anyone else has any comments on why the current version of NM > doesn't address the concerns in §4 of the CTTE decision, please raise > them to the bug. Were the issues relating to wicd and network-manager intercting badly addressed somehow? I know there was a plan  to fix this, but I didn't see the intended followup. [There may have been unforseen difficulties with the proposed solution.] Last I checked this as part of #688772, attempting to use wicd caused a counterintuitive error message of "Connection Failed: bad password" if network-manager was running. I just tested this again on Sid, and this is still the case. [I don't currently have the ability to test Wheezy for this.] When this was brought up in the bug report, the response was "network-manager can be installed, then disabled", but how to do that wasn't documented anywhere in the network-manager package. Instead the next suggestion was documenting this issue in the Wheey errata , but I don't see network- manager or wicd mentioned there, nor mentioned in the Installation Guide  for Wheezy. Suggestions? : http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=688772#464 : http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata : http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/install.txt.en -- Chris -- Chris Knadle Chris.Knadle@coredump.us
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