Re: Stuff from /bin, /sbin, /lib depending on /usr/lib libraries
]] Petter Reinholdtsen
> [Steve Langasek]
> > My knee-jerk reaction to the Fedora proposal had been that it was
> > sick and wrong and would cause unacceptable breakage for users on
> > upgrades if Debian adopted the same plan. However, I struggled to
> > formulate a concrete scenario where losing support for that last
> > configuration would actually make a difference.
>
> I can give you one example of what we loose if stuff in / depend on
> stuff in /usr/. I read the entire thread, and everyone is talking
> about the boot, while ignoring the shutdown.
Given the initramfs (in this context) would mount /usr, we could adopt
the interface as specified in
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/InitrdInterface and we
could make this work.
> When using NSS modules linked to libraries in /usr/ and bash (or any
> other shell loading user information at startup) as /bin/sh, the shell
> scripts being run to shut down the machine will block /usr/ from being
> umounted. When /usr/ is a LVM partition, this block LVM from being
> shut down, and leave /usr/ in a dirty state and LVM not properly shut
> down before poweroff.
LVM vs non-LVM isn't really relevant here, is it? It's just about
whether /usr is a separate fs or not?
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