Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems |Subject: Re: Really, about udev
Dear Adrian
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 03:40:41PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>
> Again, I am constantly asking here what these reasons might be and yet
> people always come with strawman arguments. I mean, seriously we had
> the discussion that systemd is a bad design because it uses the same
> configuration file syntax as Windows ini files or XDG .desktop files,
> adding the statement that these are too difficult to parse.
>
> The only valid argument I have seen so far against systemd is the fact
> that it doesn't support non-Linux kernels. But this is true for
> upstart as well. Plus, there are already efforts to get a
> systemd-unit-file-to-sysvinit converter running. So, the BSD and Hurd
> fans are not completely left outside. There is other stuff in Debian
> as well which won't work on these kernels after all (like udevd).
I have tried systemd but as it does not support the Debian extensions to
cryptsetup (namely the crypttab keyscript parameter) it is not a
valuable alternative for me - sysvinit and upstart btw do support them,
I did not yet get the chance to try openrc (and yes this is a Debian
specific feature nontheless present since long time so I argue that
people are using it and will also continue to do so). I guess this means
that either the Debian systemd maintainer may need to handle this in
some way (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=618862) or
the Debian users will have to decide how to deal with this matter.
Kind regards
Harald Jenny
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- Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev
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- Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems (was: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev)
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- Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems (was: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev)
- From: Toni Mueller <toni@debian.org>
- Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems (was: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev)
- From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
- Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems (was: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev)
- From: Toni Mueller <toni@debian.org>
- Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems (was: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev)
- From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
- Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems
- From: Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org>
- Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems
- From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
- Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems
- From: Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org>
- Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems
- From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>