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Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 11:37 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 11/15/2012 10:07 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 01:11:32AM +0000, Roger Leigh wrote:
> > [...]
> >> So systems which put additional logic in PID 1 are going to increase
> >> the probability of bugs being present, and those bugs could kill
> >> your system.
> > [...]
> >
> > This is also true for the kernel, which is why we generally prefer
> > to use Hurd... or not.
> >
> > Ben.
> The fact we aren't using Hurd has *nothing* to do with
> the fact it is a micro kernel, and you know it.

Aside from the fact that micro-kernels are grossly impractical.

> If Hurd has the same level of hardware support as
> Linux, as many contributors, and as many features,
> then probably, it would also have as many users.

It turns out that stupid architectures make it hard to attract and keep

> Mixing the discussion around feature and engineer
> design does *not* work, even in the case of kernels.

Whether the kernel or init survives a crash is completely unimportant if
the applications the computer is supposed to run become unavailable.
What good is a smaller, less buggy init if it can't keep (say) apache
and sshd running?


Ben Hutchings
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