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Re: [PROPOSAL v2] Orphaning another maintainer's packages



On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> wrote:
>> That's where nmus help.  Someone that does care and does have the time
>> can go ahead and get the features interesting them (and likely many
>> other users) to work.
>
> That's only true if you're happy with all of the changes being reverted in
> the next maintainer upload.
>
> If you're not happy with that, then no, NMUs do not help with this.
> Rather, they are a passive-aggressive way of *forcing* a maintainer to do
> work to incorporate changes that they already decided they didn't want to
> incorporate.  That may be appropriate if what's actually happening is that
> the package is orphaned, but when it's a disagreement over how the package
> should be maintained, it's more likely to just start a revert war, which
> doesn't make anyone better off.

Not if the nmu has a sufficient delay (DELAYED/10 or DELAYED/30 or
whatever would be agreed on).  The maintainer can cancel things that
he doesn't like before they get uploaded.

Given a cancelling, it is then a problem for the contributor approach
in a way the maintainer approves, and if not and they continue to
disagree with the maintainer, then a trip to the Tech Committee.

Again, all of this is rather rare, and only done by a DD who knows the
consequences of his/her actions and who we're already trusting with
the power of nmu.

We should try to get out of the way of capable people trying to make
things better.

Best wishes,
Mike


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