Hi, the week is over and here are the results from the vote: There were 64 participants in total. dh-make ======= 46 people want dh-make recommended. 27 people (+ 3 with a question mark) want dh-make suggested. 58 people voted for (at least) one of the above options. Recommending dh-make instead of suggesting was the clear winner. I will move dh-make from Suggests to Recommends in packaging-dev. bzr-builddeb ============ 8 people (+ 3 with a question mark) want bzr-builddeb recommended. 30 people (+ 10 with a question mark) want bzr-builddeb suggested. 44 people voted for (at least) one of the above options. What will I do? Am Samstag, den 13.10.2012, 00:10 +0900 schrieb Charles Plessy: > Le Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:06:11PM +0200, Benjamin Drung a écrit : > > Am Freitag, den 12.10.2012, 10:04 +0800 schrieb Paul Wise: > > > > https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/Popularity_of_bzr-builddeb_and_dh-make/ > > > > The poll will be closed in one week (if enough votes are collected). > > Hello everybody, > > if the point is to have a package that pulls everything one needs when doing > random work in Debian (as opposed with working specifically in one team where > it is predictable which helpers are used and which are not), then I do not > understand the point of not including *-buildpackage and dh-make, which are > tiny regarding to most other things that mk-builddeps will pull in later. > > I think that it is exactly the case where we should not vote. Unless the > wheight of bzr and dh-make is unbearable to otherwise users of packaging-dev, > even if the majority do not use them, what is the harm recommending them ? > Not to mention that there is no evidence that the people who vote for or > against recommending them are really using packaging-dev... I agree with your opinion. packaging-dev targets especially newcomers and should give them a good starting point. It should allow doing random work in Debian and therefore recommends packages that are used by a portion (could be lower than 50%) of Debian developers. For example, gnome-pkg-tools and pkg-kde-tools are recommended. Not every developer touches a GNOME or KDE packages, but these desktop environments are important enough to recommend these helpers. The poll showed that bzr-builddeb is wanted by a portion of developers (18 % up to 25 %), but not by most of them. Therefore I will keep bzr-builddeb recommended until someone has another good reason to demote the package to suggests. -- Benjamin Drung Debian & Ubuntu Developer
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