Hi, We are in the process of kickstarting a Debian User Group (DUG), also known as a Local Group on the Debian wiki, in Montreal. We wish to unite the Debian Members that are in the city, but also interest the numerous free software enthusiasts in the Debian project. However, after digging through numerous documentation pages, it is now unclear to me that there is a concensus over the user of lists.debian.org for such local groups, even though the wiki page says otherwise. For example, the dug-muc (munich) request has been rejected and the dug-nyc request seems to be on hold, mentionning that the proper place is on teams.debian.net. There also seems to be a disagreement about how big a group should be to "desserve" a mailing list. I think this is doing a disservice to our users. I can't imagine a user being able to go through all this trouble to setup tools for a local group. Even as a Debian Developer, I find the situation daunting, and I am not too eager to file a bug report only to be flamed for reporting issues. So I request opinion from my fellow developers - what should a local group do to have discussions about their group? Should Debian infrastructure be available for this? If so, which? I see the following options: [ ] A: Do nothing, let them figure it out [ ] B: Host lists on lists.debian.org [ ] C: Host lists on teams.debian.org [ ] D: Host lists on alioth So far it seems that teams are setting up their own listservs in random places, but that seems to be like a patchwork solution: my opinion is that we should instead help our users with the resources at our dispoal. Thank you for your time and understanding, A. Notes:  http://wiki.debian.org/LocalGroups  http://www.debian.org/MailingLists and http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list.en.html  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=687558 - although it seems the original requestor closed the bug himself...  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=454642 - also note that the above NYC request describes problems with archives and mail delivery on teams.debian.net  I find http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=687558#20 to be out of order and unnecessary. -- N'aimer qu'un seul est barbarie, car c'est au détriment de tous les autres. Fût-ce l'amour de Dieu. - Nietzsche, "Par delà le bien et le mal"
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