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Re: choice in core infrastructure decisions (Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism)

On Saturday, August 11, 2012 01:12:10, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 08/11/2012 05:53 AM, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
> > Declaring "one area -- one chosen tool" is declaring the monopoly in the
> > area. As with other monopolies, this often leads to "vendor" lock-in,
> > stagnation, stopping developing the standards. Have seen examples of all
> > that occasionally.
> Exactly! And in this particular case, the "vendor" is RedHat, and
> the programs are systemd and udev. If we can have an alternative,
> using OpenRC and mdev, then I really welcome it! Choosing systemd
> just because it *seem* to look better *now*, knowing that we have
> a quite hostile upstream, *and* dismissing any other alternative,
> is a very dangerous bet which I don't think Debian should do. That
> is, I believe, the most important point of all this thread.

systemd may seem better in /most/ cases because it does have some nice 
features, but I don't think it's better in *all* cases.  systemd doesn't allow 
shutdown/reboot from within KDE4, which in the end made it more annoying than 
helpful for me so I ended up switching back to file-rc.

> Let's welcome OpenRC and see how it goes... This doesn't mean that
> we are choosing *now* what will be the *default* init system. Just
> that we are open to a new alternative.

If and when there are Debian packages available for OpenRC I'd like to try it.

  -- Chris

Chris Knadle
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