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Re: Bug#679236: O: ckport -- portability analysis and security checking tool


On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 22:50 +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
> Le mercredi 27 juin 2012 22:22:17, Ian Jackson a écrit :
> > Philipp Schafft writes ("Bug#679236: O: ckport -- portability analysis and 
> security checking tool"):
> > > The package as made hardy useful by Ron Lee's personal vendetta against
> > > me.
> > 
> > I searched a bit and AFAICT this is a reference to these threads:
> >   bugs.debian.org/674634
> >   http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2012/06/msg00388.html
> >   http://lists.keep-cool.org/pipermail/announce/2012-May/000086.html
> > 
> > From
> >   http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/celt.html
> > I see that Ron Lee is indeed the maintainer of celt.
> > 
> > It seems to me from reading these conversations that Ron has no
> > vendetta against you.  That kind of accusation is totally
> > inappropriate.
> > 
> > Ron does indeed have something against the package celt, and his
> > explanations make perfect sense to me.  That is, he appears to be
> > right.  He is also doing, AFAICT, the right thing.
> > 
> > I think NMUing the rdepends of celt is the right thing to do, if it is
> > necessary.  (That is, if they haven't already been updated to turn off
> > celt.)
> What is the link between celt and ckport? I mean, why does this orphaning 
> message refers (implicitely) to celt?

The CELT problem as been fixed. The problem with Ron Lee is that he
removed all rdepends on libroar wich makes it useless *AFTER* the CELT
problem has been fixed. In fact I know of no problem with libroar wich
justify such a step (-> removing all rdeps means making it unusable for
it's users -> no need to skip it anymore). There are *no* open bug
reports nor was I informed of any problem using another channel.

from libao's changelog (1.1.0-2):
>    * End the grief with roar.
>      Too many people now have been through all the stages of Denial, Anger,
>      Bargaining, and Depression with it, so it's time to accept the only
>      sensible course of direct action that remains to preserve sanity.
>      Closes: #667039

The bug only asks for updating a recommends after transition (SONAME

I don't see any technical problem in this changelog entry getting fixed.
The other rdepends were removed by him in a similar way.
Also he didn't even tell us (the maintainer team) about those steps. I
found out about this by chance.

In addition I needed to listen a lot to his hate speach against me on
IRC and bugs, ....

As nobody seemd to be interested in this case I decided to leave the
Debian project. I don't see a point in getting flamed for trying my very
best to ensure quality of packages just to finally waste my time by
other people rendering the packages useless.

> Anyway, I didn't know this package and it seems interesting. I'd be happy to 
> adopt this package but since I'm quite busy now it wouldn't make any sense to 
> adopt it now. I'll add a bookmark for it and will adopt it in september if 
> nobody does before.

Thanks for your interest. :)

> Best regards,
> Thomas Preud'homme
 (Rah of PH2)

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