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Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> writes:

> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 09:32:15PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> On 06/22/2012 05:34 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> > Step 1: upgrade/dist-upgrade with ia32-libs (wine, ...) held back
>> > Step 2: dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update
>> > Step 3: dist-upgrade (ia32-libs, wine, ... is now installable)
>> >   
>> May I suggest that upon upgrade, we have a debconf message telling
>> about it? We could add this in base-files or any essential package,
>> probably one with some debconf messages already in would be a better
>> pick. Instructions would show, IF ia32-libs old version is currently
>> installed
>> AND the --add-architecture i386 hasn't bee done.
>> I know we have release notes, but some don't know about them or would
>> simply not read them. A debconf message seem really appropriate IMO.
> No, debconf messages are the wrong tool for the job.
> Release notes are meant to be read once, not every time you upgrade a
> system. Having a debconf note once might be appropriate. The second
> time, you'll go "right, I've seen that before". The third time you go
> "sigh, yes, I know, fuck off". The fourth time, you hit ctrl-C, and run
> "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get upgrade" -- and then miss
> something that was actually important and didn't occur on previous
> installs.
> Please, let's keep upgrade information in the release notes. If some
> people don't read them, that's something we should try to fix; not by
> trying to work around the release notes, but by making them more
> accessible, easier to find, and more obvious instead.



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