Re: A DM/DD should know how to watch his mouth (code of conduct).
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Sergio Cipolla <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> I'm just a Debian user for some years and I'm writing to this list
> because I found that at
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=660814 the Debian
> Multimedia maintainer Fabian Greffrath was very wrong, by being not
> only wrong in what he said but also very impolite.
Why is he wrong in what he said? Don't take me wrong, I'm a d-m.o user
myself, but Fabian is entitled to his opinion.
> I wrote to a follow-up of that bug report (
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=660924 ) about what I
> thought of it:
> "Fabian, who do you think you are to call d-m-o's packages as 'crappy'?
> d-m-o is a traditional and very respected 3rd party repository for
> Debian and has been for years.
That's way off-topic in the context of that bug report.
> I can't tell the same of you.
Yes, let's make this personal. Classy.
> You know very well why it uses an epoch in their versioning: exactly
> so as people that want/need to use the extra features/packages it
> provides don't mix what shouldn't be mixed with the official Debian
And how does that have anything to do with the fact that installing
packages from outside the Debian repositories can introduce
incompatibilities with software installed from the Debian
> I'm not sure if you're a Debian Maintainer or not (or worse, Debian
> Developer) but this kind of big mouthing shouldn't be accepted from a
> If I find out the proper channel for this I'll raise this subject so
> as the Debian contributors know that they should measure their words
> otherwise they should step down (even a 'do-ocracy' has its limits)."
> So I'm writing to this list to raise this subject that a DM/DD should
> stand to a minimum level of respect, specially when talking about
> fellow contributors (even unofficial).
> Maybe this is already in some sort of code-of-conduct for someone
> applying for DM but if it's not, I leave here my suggestion.
While I personally would try to avoid the language Fabian used, asking
a maintainer to step down solely because of this incident is
ridiculous. Fabian's language in those bug reports isn't uncommon in
the free software community, deal with it.
Someone call the whambulance, quick.