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Re: Providing a dummy web server package in Debian (Removing web server dependencies from web apps)

On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 08:20:23PM +0100, Arno Töll wrote:
> On 06.01.2012 19:09, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > I don't think this would be an issue for anyone, and I wouldn't see any
> > argument against it (I'm sure someone in this list will though... :) ).
> > Your thoughts?

> The overall benefit over our virtual package system, possibly in
> addition to equivs seems flexible enough. Why do we tailor incomplete
> special case solutions instead of recommending equivs more popularly?

> I say incomplete, because similar use cases exist for different package
> groups - e.g. think of mail servers and database servers. Do we really
> want dummy packages for each group of alternatives?

> On the other hand, we have a perfect solution which apparently only
> needs some more propaganda if even developer don't know it.

> That said, you're a developer. If you want to maintain such a dummy
> package, you could consider uploading it despite of all critics and hope
> ftpmaster will accept it.

I hope ftpmasters would reject such a package with prejudice.  The solution
for a dependency that you're not happy with is not to break it in the
archive with dummy packages.

It would be very wrong to bypass the dependency system in the archive on
account of the filesystem cross-mount tricks described here.  Using equivs
locally is the *right* solution for such cases.

Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer                                    http://www.debian.org/
slangasek@ubuntu.com                                     vorlon@debian.org

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